Thursday, July 14, 2005

Their impure blood should water our fields

  • Happy Bastille Day, Frenchies. Shame about the Olympics. You get points for having a gratuitously violent national anthem, though.

  • Gah. Remember Des'ree, with all her crazy hand movements when she sang? She always reminded me of my second grade teacher, Mrs. Parker. For reasons that I cannot explain, I have that one song by her swimming in my head --"You gotta be hard, you gotta be tough, you gotta be stronger..." Stop! Get out of my head!

  • How could you possibly enjoy going to a church with a congregation of 16,000? We have these massive churches in Minnesota*, too. I do not understand the mega-church mentality. I have to try very hard to not let it scare me. I know that an erstwhile Christian missionary and a soon-to-be pastor read this blog -- I'd be interested to hear what they think of mega-churches.

  • Minneapolis-St. Paul comes in second among the top beer-drinking areas in the United States. I'm so proud.

    *For the people living outside of the United States who read this blog and are concerned that my country has completely lost the plot, this article will confirm that belief.

    Dave Morris said...

    Huzzah! St. Louis is 4th. Woooo!

    Cheryl said...

    With you on the churches thing. How can they call it a ministry - how can you minister to anyone when theres another 15,999 in the queue, with names to remember and issues to understand?

    Curly said...

    "....they hate us for all the right reasons..." The last paragraph in the Mega-church article. What?!

    Hmmm, my computer is not allowing me to look at the beer article. Congratulations are due all the same! Who came first?

    lfc said...

    i'll tell you the appeal of the mega-church. it's EASY.
    most churches you go in, they tell you you're a sinner, how to ask for forgiveness, etc etc.
    but lakewood is fun, easy, and you don't leave feeling like you need to make any changes in your life. and you feel like a good person because you went to church that week.
    i like joel osteen, he seems like a great guy, but speaking from a christian standpoint, i think he preaches too much positive thinking and not enough of the Word.

    OldHorsetailSnake said...

    Yeah, I'm with Curls. What are the "right reasons" to hate somebody? B.O.?

    TotallyHappened said...

    I think that B.O. is a perfectly acceptable reason to hate someone... you should get a whiff of these guys I work with.

    Chris Cope said...

    I was wrong. It's not 16,000 other people -- it's 30,000!

    Shawn D. Mickschl said...

    The mega-church is definitely an interesting thing. I have been thinking about this for quite some time; long before I ever heard of Joel Osteen. In talking to many pastors about this, a couple things strike me:

    To some degree, it seems to be matter of ego. (The bigger my church is, the more effective I must be.)

    The pastors of these churches get elevated to a pseudo-celebrity status. That is quite dangerous.

    On the other hand, the mega-church model is very strong in creating small group ministry (all Christians ministering to each other). The small group ministry model was formed by John Wesley in Chris' much beloved UK. (I know, I know...Chris loves Wales).

    Unfortunately, I think the focus of the mega-church small groups falls away from Christ and His teachings, and gravitates toward the leader of their ministry and his or her teachings.

    It all comes down to the leader of the church, and who that person has as the leader of his or her life.

    Thomas said...

    I bought my brother Joel Osteen's book yesterday.

    Thomas said...

    I posted about megachurches on my blog:

    Anonymous said...

    Being a sinner myself, I don't have too many stones to throw at the mega-churches. I will, however, say this: I struggle to see a resemblance between their philosophy and the life and ministry of Jesus as recorded in the New Testament. That, and who would want to pay $9 for parking every Sunday morning!?

    As far as the nationalistic sermon, once again, seems a bit out of place with the "My kingdom is not of this world" stance taken by Jesus. While I think that national pride is a fine thing, I do not believe that the US government is synonymous with Christianity, and any sermon implying that it is seems misguided to me.